This Oscar blogger bites back
Oh, Patrick Goldstein, you can't be serious! Oscar prognosticating is a "demeaning, nauseatingly superficial ritual"? Oscar blogs and websites transform "the Academy Awards from a celebration of movies into a silly exercise in Ouija board-style predictions and lamebrained analysis"?
Quite the contrary: we bloggers do a brainy, vital, in-depth job of informing people about one of the most important things in the world: showbiz awards.
Stop laughing! Get up off the floor! I can prove it!
If movies, TV and music are valuable reflections of who and what we are as a culture — and they are — then deciding what's best among them is truly invaluable.
In the case of film, media observers consider the Academy Awards so vital that they can't resist piping in with their own views early in the season, thus hoping to influence the decisions of voters we respect the most: members of the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts & Sciences (the people who make movies every day).
Lots of prominent, alternative film awards have sprung up on the calendar in advance of the Oscars as a result. These smaller races have become legs in one big, long gold derby that stretches from December to March — with the Oscars being the finish line.
At the starting gate are four awards bestowed by the most important film critics' groups: L.A., New York, the national society and the broadcast pundits. After U.S. journos pipe in, the foreign press doles out the Golden Globes, which average Americans care about so much that the gala is often the second-highest rated kudocast of the year. Then come trophies bestowed by members of the guilds: actors, writers, directors and producers. Then, finally, there are the Oscars, which always reflect results from those precursor awards.
Tracking the overall derby is Hollywood's — and much of America's — favorite showbiz sport. And it's thrilling to behold. The Kentucky Derby — ha! — is insignificant by comparison. What difference does it make what horse wins a bundle of money for a tycoon none of us knows?
Photo: If Oscar watchers weren't tracking the 1999 film derby closely, they would've missed the dramatic emergence of Hilary Swank at the early critics' awards.
(Killer Films)
Or let's look at another sports championship: the Super Bowl. Be honest: football is silly. It's full of big, fat, dumb men in overstretched tights bumping each other to move a pigskin ball and score points. What does winning prove? That Green Bay is superior to Oakland? The vast majority of those fat, dumb men aren't from those cities. It's all a big lie. With no payoff.
But when the film derby runs its course, the payoff is huge. Superstars emerge who will dominate pop culture for years to come. And movies enter the history books, thus guaranteeing that they'll be watched and re-watched for centuries thereafter, affecting people in the profound psychological ways that great films do.
Oh, yeah, and gazillions of dollars are at stake.
When the film derby is at its best, we see critics launching ponies that would never have made it to the track otherwise, like Hilary Swank. The L.A. and New York writers tapped the obscure ex-TV star of "Beverly Hills 90210" for best actress in December 1999, after discovering "Boys Don't Cry" in small art houses.
Soon afterward it was clear that Swank could really be Oscar-bound when she popped up as a Golden Globe nominee. Meantime, buzz and momentum built fast for "Boys" and Swank became a familiar face on Entertainment Tonight and E! On Jan. 23, 2000, when Swank won the Golden Globe, she seemed unstoppable en route to the Oscar podium.
But then — hold your horses, derbyites! — "American Beauty's" victory as best drama at the Globes gave its star Annette Bening sudden momentum. On March 12, she beat Swank at the Screen Actors Guild Awards, which usually foretell the Oscars. In the last two weeks of the derby, Bening and Swank appeared to be neck and neck. On Oscar night, when Swank emerged triumphant, she arrived onstage so breathless and flustered that in the long list of people she mentioned at the podium, she forgot to thank her husband.
Historically, the film critics' awards have made scores of crucial contributions to the derby early on, including Best Picture choices "Annie Hall," "The Deer Hunter" and "The Silence of the Lambs."
Other Oscar best picture champs didn't emerge as front-runners until the Golden Globes jumped into their saddle: "The French Connection," "The Last Emperor" and "Oliver!" In 1969, "Midnight Cowboy" was a real dark horse, literally — one that didn't break into a trot until its helmer John Schlesinger was hailed by the Directors Guild of America. Earlier that year, the critics' awards for best picture had gone to "Z" while the Globes voters chose "Anne of the Thousand Days."
Of course, there are dozens of similar examples of precursor awards launching eventual winners of best actor and actress, too.
Doesn't the work of these Oscar winners matter a lot? Surely, it does, which means it's important to track their emergence along the way each year.
Plus, it's so much fun. Especially when you get to clash with other Oscar bloggers en route. Sure, things get bloody sometimes and the drama and ballyhoo get cranked up to exaggerated heights.
Just like in the movies. How appropriate, eh? I don't think Oscar-watchers would want it any other way.




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Posted by: Sandra | May 18, 2006 at 07:47 PM
Tom, you must know that Patrick Goldstein had most of the power and influence, with his Los Angeles Times column, until bloggers came on the scene. He seems to resents the newcomers. But the input of the bloggers is interesting, even if one doesn't agree with some of their opinions.
Posted by: Al | December 18, 2005 at 11:57 PM
Tom;
I read the Goldstein article, and felt as if he resents sharing power and influence. Bloggers are a nuisance to him, because he formerly held sway in influencing the readers of THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, many of whom are oscar voters.
So it's good to see so many different viewpoints by bloggers, instead of those of just one columnist.
Posted by: Al | December 13, 2005 at 11:19 PM
Tom Tom Tom... First, let me say I enjoy reading you. Second, let me add that I'm baffled by your response to my comment that "Oscar pundits are overwhelmingly indifferent to discussing the merits of the film and have become obsessed with the horserace while having very little horsesense. "
You say, "You are wrong, sir," but then go on to reinforce my point by building a case for prognosticating the Academy's voting patterns because"the awards are handed out like they were choosing the king and queen of the prom." I fail to see how such an obvious observation is a defense. Just because the Oscar doesn't usually go to the most deserving films doesn't mean Oscar bookies are off the hook, particularly when they claim to be critics, cineastes or connoisseurs of the "art of film." I get that the Academy votes a certain way but why is forecasting Academy voting patterns a more worthy endeavor than actually castigating the Academy for ignoring the better films? Why not use your keyboard to strike a heroic blog blow for elevating the Oscar season to what it claims to be: a celebration and exploration of the best films of the year. I guess my point is simply why do people like you, who truly do love film, spend so much time reading film biz tea leaves and parsing the buzz rather than championing the next Hilary Swank?
Posted by: Eric | December 04, 2005 at 06:14 PM
Mr. Goldstein is a classic example of an old-school journalist who doesn't get it on such a grand scale that he doesn't even realize the difference between a 'blogger" and a bona-fide journalist who happens to write on the Internet. David Poland, Jeff Wells, Tom O'Neill, several people Goldstein mentioned are all journalists who happen to write on the Web now. Bloggers, by definition, are usually considered the more amateur among us, like the people who write on Gold Derby, for example, who may or may not have a journalism background.
But be that as it may, what Goldstein doesn't get the most is that the media landscape has changed, and he is part of the dinosaurs among them. There is a reason why studios quake when bloggers (true bloggers, not verified journalists, who still have to kiss their butts to some degree) diss a movie they are trying to push. Because people are increasingly listening to, and believing the words of others who don't have an agenda, or an axe to grind, over overstuffed, overpaid journalists who look down their noses at us "bloggers."
--Michelle Belaskie, journalist who also blogs
Posted by: MicheBel | November 30, 2005 at 08:42 PM
NEWS FLASH! Tom O'Neil and David Poland to go Best Supporting Bozo. Will they cancel each other out? Will Mr. O'Neil toss a fit? Will Mr. Poland offend the masses? Who will have the better dress? Will they ruin what is otherwise a grand evening? Will George Clooney point and laugh?
Tom O'Neil and David Poland. The only two men on the planet who can give you the odds on Best New Chapstick Flavor!
So much has been given to you both, and so little have you returned in favor
Posted by: John | November 30, 2005 at 01:55 PM
This madness should end, soon! Any point that was trying to be made has become mute. Mr. O'Neil and Mr. Poland are just plain silly, but what a cute pair of misfits. Thanks for sucking the life out film's highest honor.
Posted by: John | November 30, 2005 at 01:55 PM
People have said you can't compare these bloggers to the political bloggers that handicap House, Senate and Presidential races but I would disagree. Or maybe I would agree, because the real comparison is between these bloggers and the MSN (or OM) commentators in the last four months of a presidential election. All the talk is handicapping and very little is substance. Bloggers - at their worst - are just one step below cable talk shows, which also get decried as the downfall of _____ (pick your own favorite).
I don't begrudge these bloggers what they do because - as Sasha Stone said in their defense - they do it because they love it. Car clubs are frivolous, too, but they're not the downfall of the industry - or NASCAR or the IRL or any of the professional circuits.
I think what people are really missing is that people in the conversation break down into two camps (that overlap): One is all about good movies and what movies deserve recognition and one group is all about prognostication. Trying to call the Oscars is not different from betting on all sorts of other activities, from sports to politics, and the discussions can be just as bad or good.
I think what Goldstein's column fails to see is that blogs allow for niche work, while a (general) newspaper doesn't. Even EW isn't ALL Oscars, all the time, but their coverage is probably the closest to an MSM/OM analogue of these blogs. And the people who are interested in Oscar handicapping (or those sites) may or may not be interested in good moviemaking - that's not why they visit those blogs! They visit them for one specific reason.
Posted by: Michael | November 30, 2005 at 11:29 AM
It's silly of Mr. Goldstein to write an article like this, because Oscars have always generated a great deal of hype and probably always will. Remember the Julie Andrews/Audrey Hepburn scandal back in the 1960's over My Fair Lady? Poor Audrey did not even get a nomination for Best Actress even though the picture was nominated in virtually every other category -- all because of the media hype surrounding the part of Eliza Doolittle. This is just one example of the hysteria that has gone on for a long time. So, chill out, Mr. Goldstein, you are feeding the same machine. I often wonder, as I'm sure others do as well, what qualifications movie reviewers for newspapers and journals have to fling out their opinions so vehemently? I do not consider them much better than the bloggers necessarily. Actually, I have read some reviews by bloggers that I thought were remarkable. Most are silly, it's true. Real film criticism is much different than what you usually read in most newspapers and magazines. Where are the James Agees or Andre Bazins or Pauline Kaels of today? Don't say Roger Ebert, because he doesn't write; he dictates.
Posted by: charles woodard | November 30, 2005 at 11:03 AM
Uh, "The Envelope"?
How about "The For-Your-Consideration Advertising Grab"?
So, the Times finally bought into the lucrative game the Hollywood trades have been playing for years during the annual awards season.
By packaging and branding their Oscar/Globes/Etc. coverage, you have established a product that can be more easily (and frequently) sold to the studios.
More meaningless Oscar prognostication? Who cares?
Another reason to finally cancel my LAT subscription... what have I been waiting for?
Posted by: Dave Williams | November 30, 2005 at 05:05 AM
Eric, you wrote:
"that Oscar pundits are overwhelmingly indifferent to discussing the merits of the film and have become obsessed with the horserace while having very little horsesense. They handicap films they haven't seen. "
You are wrong, sir. Sorry to be the one to point it out but there it is. Why is it so hard a concept to grasp that Academy voters vote a certain way - they don't vote for the best films of the year, not by the longest shot. If you'd been doing this as long as I have you'd see that. The awards are handed out like they were choosing the king and queen of the prom. The better films, throughout Oscar history (save a brief moment in the 70s) have been IGNORED. So don't blame us if the art of film has been lost. We try to figure out how they are going to vote, knowing it has nothing whatever to do with art. Come on, the Oscars have always been about business. And besides, it is only our love of movies that keeps us going. Otherwise, why bother?
Posted by: Sasha | November 29, 2005 at 10:34 PM
Dave Cullen -- We have a comprehensive kudos calendar here at TheEnvelope.com. Try this link:
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/events/shows/env-awards_master_calendar,0,1887292.htmlstory?coll=env-shows
Posted by: Tom O'Neil | November 29, 2005 at 05:47 PM
Interesting. The Independent Spirit Awards get more mainstream every year. This year, for I think the first time, all five nominees for best picture are things that are realistically in Oscar contention as well. The nominees for Best Actor could conceivably be exactly what the Oscars nominate. What happened to the really quirky, small-scale works that used to excel in even the top categories of the Indie Awards?
I agree the Squid and the Whale is not gonna be nominated for Best Picture Oscar, but it could easily get nominated for Actor and Screenplay.
Posted by: Todd | November 29, 2005 at 01:24 PM
Meanwhile, the Independent Spirit Awards noms were announced this morning. Film Independent just posted the noms on its site tens minutes ago (i.e., ten minutes after they said they would).
Nom list:
http://www.filmindependent.org/pdf/SA_nomonesheet.pdf
Their press release:
http://www.filmindependent.org/pdf/SA_nompressrelease.pdf
Quickie news story:
http://www.indiewire.com/biz/2005/11/the_squid_and_t.html
Brokeback was tied for second with four noms: best pic, director, actor and supporting actress.
The leader, with six, was "The Squid & The Whale," which is out of serious Oscar contention, so this will help.
Posted by: Dave Cullen | November 29, 2005 at 09:25 AM
O'Neil completely misses the point of Goldstein's argument, namely, that Oscar pundits are overwhelmingly indifferent to discussing the merits of the film and have become obsessed with the horserace while having very little horsesense. They handicap films they haven't seen. O'Neil's contention that occasionally a Hilary Swank is brought to the attention of the Academy thanks to the Oscar bookies is comparable to saying that Bush is a friend to African Americans because he hired Condi Rice. The bottom line? The argument -- and the award -- go to Goldstein
Posted by: Eric Gutierrez | November 29, 2005 at 08:07 AM
I have always been a big fan of the Oscars and other movie awards shows. But I have never for one moment thought that they were actually serious or even particularly valuable. I simply enjoy them as silly, essentially mindless fun -- in the same way that a lot of people enjoy sports or read People Magazine or watch Entertainment Tonight I don't make claims for the awards, or the blogging, as serious. Frankly, in my view, anyone who does is being totally pretentious and has no real persepctive on what is important in the world.
Making The Apu Trilogy or Tokyo Story or Citizen Kane is an important contribution to the world. Blogging on whether Hilary Swank will beat Annette Bening a second time for the Best Actress Oscar is not on any level an important or valuable activity. It's just empty, silly, stupid fun -- and I totally enjoy doing it on that level. I don't feel I have to justify it on any other level.
Question -- if blogging about awards shows is so empty and stupid, then what does that make someone who bothers to take the time to blog about those bloggers???
Posted by: Todd | November 29, 2005 at 06:33 AM
If nothing else, Patrick Goldstein's rant finally got you and DP and me to agree on something...a first!...so bravo, Patrick Goldstein! :)
Posted by: EDouglas | November 29, 2005 at 03:09 AM
The Oscars have always been rather silly. So why blame the prognosticators for enjoying it for the frivolity it is? And how is it that following who wins lead-up critics awards and predicting who is likely to win Oscars is all of a sudden mutually exclusive from being passionate about film as art?
Do you really feel that Oscar bloggers are ruining the art of film? Then don't read their blogs for God's sake, and go to the movies and be challenged and inspired and moved as we continue to be in spite of our trivial musings on Oscar odds
Posted by: DBibby | November 29, 2005 at 01:57 AM
SAG don't foretell the Oscars. I thought that was in On How To Oscarwatch Vol. 1.
Posted by: Tomo | November 29, 2005 at 01:30 AM
hdBLY are you suggesting politics is important but art is mere ephemera---not important?
Heresy. Film often leads the changes in social values, which will later show up in Congress. Much later.
This is a particularly odd sentiment in the year of Syrinna and Brokeback Mountain and maybe even The New World and Munich, depending what the latters contain.
Posted by: Dave Cullen | November 29, 2005 at 12:54 AM
I think you missed the point, Tom. Your reply didn't address much of your colleagues concern. You talked about all the awards programs and societies and guilds, but very little about the bloggers. The bloggers who decide who's going to be nominated and who has the inside track to winning--even before the movies are released, before they see the movies. How does that happen? How do they know? What makes them so right, the fact that they have a blog?
I don't like football but I can't believe you say the Superbowl is nothing. Since you pulled out ratings to prove the viability and vitality of awards shows, I guess I have to pull out ratings to inform you that the Superbowl is always much more highly rated than the Oscars. And it seems your definition of pop culture is restricted to movies and TV, not sports or press or books or music. But let's stick with sports and that inconsequential Superbowl. Is not Donavan McNaab and his Campbell soup-pushing mother part of the pop culture. Joe Namath's book "I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow because I get better looking everyday" is part of high culture? I don't think so. Aren't the commercials during the Superbowl one of the highlights of the game? And the majority of those commercials are premiered during the Superbowl. Is the same true for the Oscars?
But I digress, the real point is that you missed the point. The Oscars and all the bloggers prognasticating is about movies, entertainment, ephemera. There's so much hot air about it all and for what? Now, Hillary Swank gets a better choice of roles? A bigger paycheck? An entry in EW's annual clout issue? None of this has any effect on us, the nation and/or the world at large.
Bush starting a war based on lies, does--and over 2000 families have lost loved ones in it. Countless thousands have lost limbs. This war affects my pocket book directly and the programs the government offers our fellow citizens directly. Blogging about the war and other issues that actually affect us is important, blogging about the politics of which category someone will submit themselves, or how many people died in the film seems to be frivolous and distracting to the real issues at end.
That said, I love the Oscars. I love the silliness and pomp and the speeches that I'd heard threee or four times before the actual Oscars (case in point: Jamie Foxx--I could have done that Oscar acceptance speech for him, after seeing him win every other award in sight.) And what we lose sight of--and this is the real point of your colleagues article--was the art of the movies, the wonder of the movies, the excitement of them, of their ability to transport us, to touch us, to anger us, to disgust us. All the bloggers' clicking is about everything but the art of the film, the beauty of film, the art of film and the artist's work in the film. And that's what all the bloggers forget.
Posted by: hdBFLY | November 29, 2005 at 12:08 AM
Thanks for this. Oh course the whole derby is great sport for great masses of it. People are always putting down obsessions they just don't share/get.
Very nicely defended Tom.
(And Jack, I guess it depends what circles you run in. No one I knows discusses that. And perhpas your time-horizon of one day is a bit silly. Years later, most of us know that Hillary Swank, Jane Fonda, Kate Hepburn all won Oscars, along with movies like The Godfather, Ben Hur, even Wings. Bet you can't name any dresses from just last year. They matter. For a long, long, time.
And you also overlook that fact that from a business viewpoint, virtually all the theatrical money has already been wrung out of them by Oscar night. And surely you realize how much the awards matter when the real money is to be made, when the DVDs are released.
Now here's my problem for the derby. I have not been able to find a good, consolidated calendar of all the key dates in the Oscar race on one page, anywhere.
So I finally just created one:
http://blogs.salon.com/0001137/stories/2005/11/28/2005filmawardsschedule.html
Oscar dates in red, major announcements (awards and noms) in bold, ballot deadlines in italics. Got most of the dates off of TheEnvelope, which had them spread across a dozen different pages.
If anyone knows of a better one, please point me to it.
Posted by: Dave Cullen | November 28, 2005 at 10:44 PM
Why is that the day after the Oscars, nobody much cares about anything but who wore what? The Oscar and awards prognostications madness is all about hype, and when the awards are handed out, it's over. The payoff doesn't much matter.
Posted by: Jack Egan | November 28, 2005 at 09:37 PM
Movie making is a business. Yes, there is art to it, but let's not kid ourselves that any of the award-granting bodies out there, including AMPAS, really consider it on any other terms. From the backroom deals of the Weinsteins to scandals with the Globes and the NBR, awards are obviously a big deal to the studios.
And that, in my not-so-humble opinion, makes them fair game for every ounce of speculation, gossip and downright dissection normally reserved for serious topics like politics.
The entertainment industry has an immense effect on public consciousness--why else would people be freaking out about Brokeback Mountain? Hollywood may be fluff on the surface, but the fact that the public takes it seriously means it's a serious topic for journalism. And that includes the amateur journalism of blogging. Do we who get involved in this think we're the Woodward and Bernstein of the glamour set? Probably not. But it is important nonetheless.
For critics to pretend to take offense at this feeding frenzy is patently silly. They're in this up to their ears as much as anyone. If they weren't, they wouldn't be making a living at it (nor would they be elevating broke, failed writers to godlike status. Really, dears, Miles was a jerk.)
No art is truly devoid of business or politics, and film least of all, considering its reach, scope and capacity to win and lose fortunes. It's great when films are made more with art in mind than money, but please--as if any of the yearly contenders really think that way. Their directors may, but the studios certainly don't. More and more films crowd at the end of the year, doing limited qualifying runs before using awards as a springboard to open wider. It's that kind of crass commercialism critics should be whining about, not the fact that there are plenty of us out here who enjoy sitting on the sidelines merrily commenting on the carnage.
Posted by: Talea | November 28, 2005 at 09:36 PM