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Oscars won't 'Listen' to Beyonce; she's disqualified in song race

January 2, 2007 |  3:07 pm

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You can not only forget about Beyonce Knowles winning an Oscar for best actress this year. (If you haven't heard, a certain ingenue keeps upstaging her throughout "Dreamgirls." And in the race for best comedy/musical actress at the Globes, she's up against a real devil — Meryl Streep — who knows a lot about winning that award.) Now it looks like Beyonce won't win an Oscar as a songwriter either — for "Listen," one of the original new tunes added to the original Broadway score. Officially, she's listed as one of the song's four writers, but the motion-picture academy only permits three names — max — as a credit. To see the specific language of its Rule 16 — CLICK HERE!

Oscar Rule 16 is fairly new, by the way. At the 2003 derby, seven people were cited as cowriters of "Accidentally in Love" from "Shrek 2." In 1981, four folks won for writing "'Arthur's' Theme." Oscar guru Wayman Wong asserts that limiting the number of songwriters to three "is kinda arbitrary," adding, "The Oscars, of course, give out four Oscars in other categories, like visual effects and sound." However, the academy does limit the number of producers who get credit for best picture to three in its Rule 17 CLICK HERE.

The Oscars' songwriting branch has decided to qualify only Henry Krieger, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler for writing "Listen." No explanation is given for why Beyonce is excluded over the others. Is this just one of those cases of where the singer insisted upon having her name added to credits as part of her performance deal? In media interviews, she's often said that she was truly involved in its songwriting. Apparently, not to the extent as her three collaborators, according to the Oscars.

Notice some info posted in the "Comments" section of this blog piece — from poster named Nick. He provides a link to an article about the writing of "Crazy in Love," which earned Beyonce and cohorts the Grammy for best R&B song of 2003, an award bestowed to songwriters. CLICK HERE to read what her actual involvement was in its composition. In fact, it notes that she wrote the song's bridge section. Thanks for adding this insight and link, Nick!

Take heart, Beyonce fans. Not only is she nominated in the actress race at the Globes, but she'll be among the people who share the credit for "Listen" if it wins best song there. And it probably will.

(NOTE: Since this blog item was written, we've heard official word from Beyonce and the academy — CLICK HERE!

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Comments

It'll be interesting to see how the industry responds. I doubt if there will be a groundswell of support to the point where anything will be done. In my opinion, Beyonce does not deserve a nomination for Best Actress. The field is really crowded with Helen Mirren, Judi Dench and Kate Winslet.

"Listen" is a wonderful song, but I don't know how much she's contributed to its creation so I have no comment. In terms of placement, I felt the song was manipulative for voting purposes. It was Beyonce's showcase moment for the Oscar.

Don't worry Mark, he's making me look stupid, too.

Where are you getting you info from?????????? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the internet and you don't provide a link to any website.....

Tom:

It's kinda shady that you can alter your blog comment but we cannot edit the comments we post in response. You've gone back in & changed your original post, so now it negates parts of my response & makes me look like an ass to anyone that doesn't remember what your original post said earlier today. (re: the bridge of "Crazy In Love").

Anyhoo -- the whole thing stinks -- either Beyonce doesn't deserve the writing credit she is taking & getting paid for -- or she is getting totally screwed by the Oscars. Something stinks.

I still am wondering if she will:
a) perform at the Oscars
b) go public about this...
It seriously sucks for B who not only performed the song BUT PRODUCED IT AND WROTE IT!!!!

They just changed the rule recently at the Oscars, so Beyonce's gettin' gypped, no doubt of that, if she really did pitch in with the writing in a substantial co-equal way.

No, this won't help her in the actress race -- unless everybody whips up a tsunami of outrage. I just broke the story here a few hours ago. Let's see how how the hubbub builds.

http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Academy_Awards_USA/2005#Oscar_Best_Achievement_in_Music_Written_for_Motion_Pictures_Original_Score

Shrek 2 had 7 people nominated for song that year....This is outrageous....Will this make her chances of Best Actress better, Tom????
*Cough, sympathy votes*

While it is an unfortunate little-known fact that often times in the shady music biz, people are given writing credits & publishing on songs they may have had little or no contribution to (i.e. Babyface's true lack of songwriting involvement in Whitney & Mariah's "When You Believe") for reasons sometimes totally unrelated to the song itself. I've even heard of cases where a songwriter in the middle of divorce gives publishing to his soon-to-be Ex as part of the divorce settlement. -- but using Beyonce's hit "Crazy In Love" as an example is just plain unfair.

Did you even READ the link Nick provided to the MTVNews.com article re: Beyonce's "Crazy In Love"? It contains NO comments from Beyonce herself, but if we take producer Rich Harrison's word for it, he clearly states that Beyonce wrote the bridge herself. Beyonce has NEVER claimed SOLE authorship of that song...ever.

Yes, that song IS all about the sampled horn part Harrison came up with -- but I defy any fan or even casual listener of the song to deny the musicality & importance of the bridge -- I dare you not to sing-along:

"Got me lookin
so crazy,
my baby,
I'm not myself,
maybe i'm foolish,
I don't do this.
I been playin' myself,
baby I don't care
'Cause your love's got the best of me
& baby you're makin' a fool of me
Got me sprung
& I don't care who sees
Baby you got me,
you got me so Crazy..."

Why on earth has it become so fashionable to hate on Beyonce?

IF it is proven that Beyonce had nothing to do with the writing of "Listen", then fine, but if she did indeed contribute, it's totally unfair she's not eligible -- especially when just last year there were more than 3 writers listed on certain nominations. Did they just change the rule THIS year?

Babyface's example is different. Stephen Schwartz, who is the sole songwriter, did not put Babyface's name on the submission ballad. Schwartz claimed that the Academy was not voting on the Whitney Houston/ Mariah Carey version that had the bridge that Babyface wrote, but that it was voitng for the movie version, which didn't have the bridge.
Even though the ladies performed the Schwartz/Babyface version on the telecast, Schwartz didn't want him to get credit for writing it.

hehehehehehe

I knew there was a G-d.

They don't want another black to win anything after 3 Six Mafia won last year. It doesn't matter how many words she contributed to the song, Beyonce gives you credit on her album if you mad a contribution in any way. Bbeyonce did a lot of work behind the scences in Dreamgirls. I have heard Jennifer Hudson say so herself. Beyonce even helped coregraph some of the dance scences. I bet you she wont get credit for that either.

okay beyonce barely wrote on the song she said that in an interview. She must have know that this would happen. She demands that she gets credit on every song she's a part of regardelss if she did not contibute.

The same thing happened to Babyface for "When You Believe"-- and the song WON!

Something similar happened to Babyface for the song 'When You Believe" from the Prince of Egypt. He was listed as the co-writer on the released version. However, his name DID NOT appear on the Oscar ballot-- and the song WON!

The bigger questions is: why does it take that many people to write a song??? Oh, for the days of Irving Berlin and Cole Porter.

Something similar happened to Babyface with "When You Believe." He's the credited writer, but his name wasn't on the Oscar ballot-- and the song won!

I'm glad the academy put their foot down. Her manager and father is a crook who got her writing and producing credits on the Destiny Child albums. She's about as literate as a retarded four year old so there's no way she came up with the lyrics of a whole song by herself. She probably came up with a few words and claimed she wrote the song.

She is notorious for taking writing credit after the fact. I'm surprised the other writers allowed it in this case.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1484784/20040203/story.jhtml

That sucks.

Outrageous in every way. Damn the academy.

 

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