Did 'The Godfather: Part II' deserve to win best picture at the Oscars?
Nominated for 11 awards at the 1974 Oscars, "The Godfather: Part II" won six: best picture, director (Francis Ford Coppola), supporting actor (Robert De Niro), screenplay (Francis Ford Coppola, Mario Puzo), music score and art direction. In the best picture derby, it beat Coppola's other flick, "The Conversation," which had earned him the Palme d'Or at Cannes, plus "Chinatown" (also with 11 noms, tied for the most), "Lenny" and "The Towering Inferno."
"The Godfather: Part II" opened at peak derby time, near Christmas, and was a clear hit. However, the top Oscar was the only best picture prize it won during derby season. National Board of Review went for "The Conversation" and the Golden Globes for "Chinatown" (drama) and "The Longest Yard" (comedy/musical). "The Godfather: Part II" was nominated for best drama picture at the Globes, plus five other awards, but lost them all. Coppola was competing against himself with dual bids for both of his films in the picture and director races, though, so he may have split his votes. In short, his defeats may not have been an accurate reflection of how voters felt about his films. However, "Chinatown" had led with the most Globe nominations.
It's hard to say what the film critics might have picked if they weren't so anti-Hollywood back then. In the early 1970s, the New York Film Critics Circle and the National Society of Film Critics — comprising mostly the same critics, curiously — were in a battle to prove which group was the snootiest, so they usually opted for foreign-language art-house flicks.
The New York critics went for Federico Fellini's "Amarcord," but "The Godfather: Part II" came in second place in the voting, followed by Ingmar Bergman's "Scenes From a Marriage." The national society went with "Scenes From a Marriage."
Coppola was nominated twice at the Directors Guild of America too, facing off against Roman Polanski ("Chinatown"), Sidney Lumet ("Murder on the Orient Express") and Bob Fosse ("Lenny"), who had won the Oscar for best director for "Cabaret" two years earlier when the original "The Godfather" took best picture. Coppola had won DGA in 1972, though, so it wasn't like the guild owed him one. Coppola and Puzo also won the Writers Guild of America award for their script to "The Godfather: Part II" just as they had for the first part.
But Coppola was holding an Oscars IOU in addition to the fact that he distinguished himself so notably with two major films in 1974.
"The Godfather: Part II" got mostly great reviews. Richard Schickel of Time wrote, "Frances Ford Coppola has made a richly detailed, intelligent film that used overorganized crime as a metaphor to comment on the coldness and corruption of an overorganized modern world."
Pauline Kael of the New Yorker wrote, "The daring of 'Part II' is that it enlarges the scope and deepens the meaning of the first film. Visually, 'Part II' is far more complexly beautiful than the first, just as it's thematically richer, more shaded, fuller."
But Vincent Canby of the New York Times gunned down the mob drama: "It's a Frankenstein's monster stitched together from leftover parts. It talks. It moves in fits and starts but it has no mind of its own.... Everything of any interest was thoroughly covered in the original film, but like many people who have nothing to say, 'Part II' won't shut up.... Looking very expensive but spiritually desperate, 'Part II' has the air of a very long, very elaborate revue sketch."
Canby also panned "Lenny" as being "no more profound than those old movie biographies Jack Warner used to grind out," while Variety hailed it "a landmark contemporary biographical drama."
Variety called "Chinatown" "an outstanding picture" and the L.A. Times said that it "reminds you again — and thrillingly — that motion pictures are larger, not smaller than life." Newsweek said "The Conversation" "remains brilliantly original in its basic style and mood." "The Towering Inferno" actually got great reviews too, as sensational blockbusters go. Cheered the L.A. Times: "More stars, more effects, more scale, more suspense, more crises, more impact, more of that feeling that you got your ticket's worth and then some!" Variety proclaimed it to be "one of the greatest disaster pictures made."
"The Godfather: Part II" is ranked 32 on the American Film Institute's list of greatest movies ever made, which is drafted pooling the views of top scholars, film critics and industry leaders. "Chinatown" is ranked No. 21. None of the other best-picture nominees of 1974 made the list.
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"Snootiness?" For Fellini and Bergman? How are they high-brow? You Americans sure have fallen down hill-off a cliff, actually. You're spoiled rotten and middle(low)-brow. If it's not American it must be indeciferable, right? Postmodern little fool. I'm sick of your train of thought. "Amarcord" is more commercial than "Godfather Part II." It was a big hit back in the day for Fellini. You're a reverse snob--the worst. A fraudulent populous democrat. What you are is a mouthpiece for the big corporations. Bully weak people into submission by calling them "stuffy." You doubtlessly attack anything that seems slighty "artisitc." What a bore it is to be alive in these awful, awful times.
Posted by: Lord Bindy | February 15, 2009 at 03:53 PM
I would have voted for CHINATOWN myself, but there is no mistaking that THE GODFATHER II is a great film. I think it is richer and more complex than the first.
Posted by: Mark | February 13, 2009 at 01:33 PM
Chinatown is a spectacular film. But Godfather II is brilliant. One or the other would have been excellent and deserving choices. If it were my vote, it would definitely go to Godfather II.
Posted by: Nathan | February 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM
It's a tough choice, to be sure. There were so many great movies in the 1970s that EVERY year resulted in a tough choice when it came down to Oscar time. I'm happy that THE GODFATHER PART II won Best Picture. It's certainly unparalleled in many ways. As the deepening continuation of the deserved Best Picture winner of 1972, it's long staked out a claim as the sequel by which all others are measured. However, if we are to be real, we must realize that CHINATOWN was the better movie. Polanski's film should have won, along with Nicholson for actor, Polanski as director (has a director ever had a greater effect on a greater movie?), screenplay (a credit which should have been shared with Polanski, who intractably shaped Towne's confused original vision), cinematography, art direction, editing, and original score. Seen today, there is still nothing like CHINATOWN. But there is something like that eventual winner: it's called THE GODFATHER.
Posted by: Dean Treadway | February 12, 2009 at 10:38 AM
If you wanna suggest Godfather II might not be the classic some think it is, fair enough. I'm sure you're not alone. But who gives a flying fig if it won best picture or not? So did Titanic, and Gladiator. You're asking this question a few decades late, surely.
Posted by: Adam Whyte | February 12, 2009 at 05:32 AM
Considering that I consider Godfather Part II to be the best movie ever made, I'd say yes, it did deserve to win BP.
Posted by: Mohamed Malik | February 11, 2009 at 07:34 PM
it's not the only sequel to win best picture, The Return of the King won also
Posted by: steve | February 11, 2009 at 07:02 PM
I have no problem with the victory of The Godfather: Part II, though I could see an argument for Chinatown.
Posted by: Robert Hamer | February 11, 2009 at 06:21 PM
Are you guys kidding?? Even asking that questionis an act of stupidity? Deserve best picture?? The Godfather Part II is the greatest American film ever made...period. And to the AFI...wake up...There is no better movie than this one -- it was then and is now a masterpiece of modern cinema.
Posted by: John H. Foote | February 11, 2009 at 06:12 PM
It's a great film but Chinatown should have won.
Posted by: lawnorder | February 11, 2009 at 05:27 PM
sorry but godfather one is much better than two, structurally and the setup of characters, opposing forces and arcs.
Posted by: dennis | February 11, 2009 at 02:33 PM
The Godfather Part II is my favorite film, and I think one of the greatest films ever made, so I think yes, it fully deserved to win Best Picture. 1974 was a great year for film, and Chinatown and The Conversation are wonderful pieces of filmmaking. But only 1 can win Best Pic, and that was The Godfather II.
Posted by: Robert | February 11, 2009 at 01:17 PM