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Susan Boyle = Adam Lambert (the real winners?)

May 31, 2009 |  8:57 am

How is it possible, you wonder, that Susan Boyle lost "Britain's Got Talent" just days after Adam Lambert lost "American Idol"? There may be a harsh reality behind both reality TV shows that got it wrong. Boyle and Lambert may have lost public contests because of their private lives.

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Many observers believe Boyle and Lambert lost because they were so heavily favored to win. Thus voters picked opponents because they wanted their votes to have maximum effect. But that didn't stop earlier "American Idol" front-runners Fantasia Barrino, Taylor Hicks and Carrie Underwood from prevailing.

Personally, I think the results of these contests reveal more about the prejudices of the voters than they do about the real talent of contestants. In Lambert's case, he obviously had greater artistic chops than Kris Allen, just like Clay Aiken was so clearly superior to Ruben Studdard, but both lost as whispers that they might be gay became deafening.

In the case of YouTube sensation Susan Boyle, she was probably defeated by one of the same things that propelled her to the finals: her frumpiness. She had enough support among a passionate minority to get her that far, but when she needed the backing of a majority of the masses, she flopped.

In the end, take solace, fans of Boyle and Lambert — over time they will have more substantial showbiz careers than the rivals who beat them, just like the outcome of Aiken versus Studdard. Those passionate minority fan bases will become more energized to rally behind their idols, proving them to be the real winners.

Compare that to the acrobatic street dance troupe Diversity, which beat Boyle on "Britain's Got Talent." Where do you think they'll be in five years when Boyle is touring concert venues?

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i loved susans singing,and her songs!!!she blew me away. omg-what a treat,i love all kinds of music ,and found hers so soothing , how can anyone not love it!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who refers to Adam Lambert's high notes as "screeching" must know absolutely nothing about music beyond the radio top 40.

Yes Adam is just like Susan Boyle, but not because they're the real winners, but because they're over-hyped and over-rated.

As to "Adam obviously had greater artistic chops than Kris Allen", I say that's BS!! Are you f**king kidding me? You call his theatrical screaming "artistic chops"?? Don't make me laugh!! The real contestant who showed real artistic chops throughout the whole competition is Kris Allen, who made each song unique and current by changing it up with his own arrangements. He can write music and play several instruemnts. He's also the only contestant who actually picked contemporary songs like "falling slowly" or "heartless" instead of some cheesy oldies that nobody would want to hear on the radio now. Whoever wrote this stupid article obviously had the music taste of a 60 year old. You are sounding like a sore loser who can't get over yourself and can't deal with the fact that people just perfer Kris's music over some screechy drag queen who likes to use his sexuality to get attention and exposure. Get a clue!

In this order:

Adam
Allison
Danny

If Kris could sing well, I would list him too ...

"In Lambert's case, he obviously had greater artistic chops than Kris Allen." Really, Tom O'Neil? Really? Well, Tom, this Tom thinks the opposite. I like Adam, but I can't understand all of these simpletons who think a bigger voice equals greater artistry. Honestly, I prefer a multi-instrumentalist over a multi-octave voice. Mariah Carey can sing circles around most people with her dog-whistle trills, but does that automatically mean she's a greater artist than say Sheryl Crow, who has a less acrobatic voice but who is an amazing songwriter and instrumentalist? Of course not, so why is everyone so determined to push this idiotic meme? Sheryl Crow's voice can express more in a verse than Mariah Carey gets across in a whole CD. Kris Allen's voice is similar. American Idol is about the whole package. Kris Allen's artistry is more subtle than Adam Lambert's, but to say his chops are lesser because he can't catapult across octaves is simply ridiculous. He plays a number of instruments, writes some pretty great music (check out YouTube), has a quiet but magnetic stage presence and a great, expressive voice. What Kris Allen did with Heartless on-stage with only his guitar surpassed any of Adam's elaborate stage-directed extravaganzas. And again, I really like Adam, but Kris connected on a subtler and deeper artistic level. You need to expand your concept of artistry, O'Neil.

Folks, Adam's a better singer than Kris. Period. No exclaimation point! We can't know the exact reason Kris got more votes.But I know one thing. I don't think I'd ever buy Kris's music. But Adam,I don't care what his first record is, I'm buying.

This article is way off base to me. First of all, I don't know how you can assume Boyle's career will be alive and kicking in five years. Second, in what world is "frumpiness" as much of a possible turn-off to voters as Adam's lifestyle was to conservatives? And despite that, I think it's clear Adam lost simply because potential fans who could have brought him to victory aren't likely to watch Idol, in which balladeers are usually more favored than rockers. Honestly, it probably is that simple.

Meanwhile Susan had much more hype and perhaps less satisfying performances and that probably caused her loss. I was rooting for Adam and I'm totally fine with him taking second place. Susan Boyle on the other hand was much more overrated, period.

Lambert and Boyle lost because of "whispers" about their sexuality? Come on.

The media set Adam Lambert up as the gay candidate (something he never pursued himself), he was on the cover of EW "Is he gay?", on the news, in print media all talking about his homosexuality. Then he lost...and because his gayness is what they defined him as, he must have lost because of it. Give me a break.

Lambert's sexuality hardly affected his chance of winning, he lost because Kris got more votes. Period.

And why exactly must we pit these guys against each other. Tom is still clearly bitter about the Ruben vs. Clay showdown. Folks, its like comparing apples and oranges. In 6 months, lets not compare album sales and radio spins and use that as verification of your guy's might. Remember, Ray J is selling more records than John Legend. Is he more talented?

Kris Allen and Adam Lambert were my two favorites this year on American Idol, but when it came down to the finale, I honestly did choose Kris Allen for the win due to musical reasons. Kris has to be the most underappreciated winner and he really does deserve to be respected for his music. Kris has that extra something in that he can stay true to himself and make it his own, like a legend just starting out in the beginning of his career. I liked the final musical product that Kris has to offer better in the end. Adam has my analytical admiration, but Kris snuck in and stole my heart musically. I have to disagree with Adam being clearly superior and find the word cleary to be an unnecessary word because if it was clear, then it would not need to be said. Both Kris and Adam have something musically special, but to overlook the beauty of Kris because of bitterness over a reality show title, this is everyone's loss. Kris and Adam are fans of each other and the music world is big enough for both of them.

Diversity deserved to win!

"In Lambert's case, he obviously had greater artistic chops than Kris Allen"

Ugh, FAIL. Lambert lost because he grew stale over the course of the competition, while Kris was on an upward trajectory.

I can understand an argument about how Adam might be the stronger vocalist, but Kris has shown a bigger knack for innovation.

I am in sales, meet hundreds of people a day, and I have not found any one that voted for Kris.

Adam Lambert "obviously has greater artisitic chops than Kris Allen." Really?

The arrogance and perceived superiority of Lambert supporters is unbelievable.

And this column is a perfect example.

OMG THE PERSON WHO WON AMERICAN IDOL WAS KRIS ALLEN.....HE WON BECAUSE HE WAS FAVORED AND HAS THE SINGER/SONGWRITER IMAGE..............NOTHIGN WILL CHANGE WITH U ALL SAYIN "ADAM DIDNT WIN CUZ OF THIS AND THAT".......THE PERSON WHO WON AMERICAN IDOL WAS KRIS ALLEN BECAUSE HE HAD THE MOST VOTES......EXCEPT THAT FACT. IF U WANTED ADAM 2 WIN SO BADLY THEN U SHOULD HAVE VOTED MORE.............2 BAD!!!!!!!

Adam will be free of A I contract and can get on with his awesome career. I thought he was the best singer but am glad he came in second so he is not tied down with contract for one year. HE ROCKS big time. He is beautiful inside and out for sure.

I thought America's Got Talent was for amateurs? Pretty boy has been on the stage since he was 3. Alan deserves it.

I agree that Adam Lambert was the best singer and SHOULD HAVE won by a landslide. However, to say that it would NEVER happen in England is ever so funny given the Susan Boyle finale.

People should be ashamed of themselves if they are homophobic...who would Jesus hate?

The media needs to get over it! Kris Allen won because he is a true singer and musician. He doesn't scream when he sings and he can actually PLAY musical instruments. I found Adam tremendously annoying throughout the whole AI competition, and I know many, many people who felt exactly the same. Will he be more popular? Only if you are a freak and into men wearing makeup and someone who screams their songs.

all i can say is:

ADAM MITCHELL LAMBERT IS THE BEST PERSON TO HAVE GRACED THE IDOL STAGE AND WILL BE A WORLD ICON. EVERYONE LOVES HIM, OR SHOULD LOVE HIM. HIS VOICE IS RIDICULOUSLY GREAT AND HE HAS A FUN AND LOVING PERSONALITY. HIS STYLE IS SO UNIQUE AND OUT THERE, IT JUST BLOWS EVERONE AWAY, WITH HIS BLACK NAIL POLISH AND GUYLINER, PLUS THE BLACK, BLUE AND GREEN HAIR!!!
ADAM IS THE REAL STAR AND THE ONLY REASON WHY HE LOST WAS OF THE DANNY FANS SO RIGIDLY VOTNG AGAINST HIM.

GO ADAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333 XD

Though I am English I did watch American Idol and was shocked that Adam did not win if it was the case he was Gay then shame on America that would not happen in England we vote for who we think is best. Britain got Talent was a huge show and the best act won Diversity.The Scots are not happy but Diversity are stunning you cannot take your eyes of them like Simon Cowell said they were the best act on any show he had ever done they were that brilliant.

Stephie,

If you think Adam's personality was manufactured and his look contrived, I suggest you go to YouTube and look at the many videos of his work over the last few years in various places in LA - the Zodiac Theater, Upright Cabaret, etc. He didn't change for Idol. He was probably the only contestant who knew who he was from day 1, and never changed. And his voice - isn't this a singing competition? I've seen Kris performing live at various venues since Idol ended, and he's just not as good. I realize that everyone has their own likes and dislikes when it comes to music, but if you're talking pure singing ability and talent, Adam wins hands down. There was never much competition. Maybe Danny at the beginning, but his voice got worn out as the season progressed. That's probably why Kris went ahead at the end. And remember, your gay neighbors don't have to like Adam just because he's gay.... that was really not relevant.

Cate -

You didn't get the point of my comment at all! I never made any comments on my looks - no, I'm not the prettiest in the world by any means. I'm just saying it's depressing that the only reason this woman is so famous in America is because she isn't that attractive (sorry if it was the word "ugly" that offended you) but can sing. If you listened to a tape of her completely apart from any of this media hype you wouldn't think she was anything particularly special.

Also, she wouldn't have got a contract if she had won anyway, that's not he proize of the show - which is why it's a bit weird that singers go on BGT and not the X Factor. The prize is £100 000 and a chance to perform on the Royal Variety Show. Maybe that's why people voted Diversity? Susan Boyle will get a record contract and go on tour etc. and get money and fame, but these boys will get money they probably need at that age and a chance to perform as part of a famous show.

Russ M. I could have not said it better! I agree with you 100%!

Pam

Adam showed us his complete mastery of singing week after week with all genres of music.....and he will be a world ICON....
Susan sang one song very well but the British voting public recognized the impact that the fame was having on her mental health...she was supported by psychiatrists to even sing in the final...her body language and speech portrayed her difficulties and we were kind enough NOT to vote for her and put more pressure on her.....she may make records but will probably not be making stage appearences.....
Diversity shone with brilliant and innovative choreography and a phenomonal work ethic.........
now...they could open for Adam on his first world tour.....!!!!!!

Diversity were amazing - a joy to watch - Susan has a voice that I don't actually like the tone of - but that's just my personal preference - I think the pressure got to her in the end (as it would anybody in her situation) but she is a great talent and will do well. As for ADAM - listen to him singing "Brigadoon" or "Is anybody listening" from The Ten Commandments justifies the title SUPERSTAR!

 


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